Какво TDI е добро за София? Мога да търгувате 2007 S6 ...

[mixofia]

Моля те, прости ми лошо български, аз съм с Google превежда. 

 

Аз съм се движат от САЩ в София това лято и искате да получите втора ръка дизелов TDI. Имам B5 S4 2000 и S6 5.2 v10 в САЩ 2007. Мога да продам и двете коли в САЩ или въвеждат от 1 до София и търговията. 

 

Лесно да се продаде / търговията с внос автомобил на САЩ в София ли е? Може ли някой да ми каже какво да очакваме? Също така, аз съм гледам за предложения за по-TDI модел / година, което е добро за живот в София. Може би един Q5/A4 2.0T? 

 

Благодаря. 

 

Майкъл.

 

[BECKO]

Perhaps you should try to explain it also in English ? The Google translate was not very good in your case ....

[galeksiev]

Hello Michael,

You can easily transfer your current car to Grece. Then you have to make a TUV test (or smth else) and some VAG recoding on your veicle. I think that threre are shops specialised in modifying US specs cars.

Eeither way you can just sell your cars and buy one here. Considering our road pavements I'll recomend Q5 3.0TDI. You'll be excited about fuel consumption  

[AALEXANDROV]

Such me you jobs, dear Michael.

The horse went into the river.

[mixofia]

HaHa. Here is the post in proper English...

 

I am moving from USA to Bulgaria this summer and want to get a second hand diesel TDI. I have a 2000 B5 S4 and 2007 S6 5.2 v10 in the US (I just bought the S6 this January and was selling the S4 :-(  ) I can still sell both cars in the U.S. or bring 1 to Sofia and use it to sell/trade for a good TDI.

 

Can anyone tell me what to expect from the second-hand car market in Bulgaria?  The car would be imported under a diplomatic visa, so a buyer would have to pay local taxes. But they are both old, so it might not be too much?

 

I am also looking for suggestions for TDIs I should consider - model & years. I'm hoping to get something that is 2-4 years old, but we don't get any TDI models in the US so I am not familiar with the choices.  I think we'll live somewhere near "Vitosha" and I hope to take frequent trips to Borovets/Bankso in the winter. Also, I'd prefer a manual, but an automatic/DSG will do.

 

Thank you.

 

Michael.

[AALEXANDROV]

Better with cash in your pockets than with hunderds of "What if?".

I mean if possible sell them both in USA in order to avoid import formalities.

Finally, having the cash in your pocket will be much easier to buy something appropriate.

The market in Bulgaria is absolute shit and the only way not to be fooled is to buy a car from an official dealer - with all tech docs, service/maintenance hystory and confirmed mileage.

[Reroll]

AAlexandrov told you better with cash in pocket.You can find a good second hand even in Bulgaria,but fairytale for you ends here,cause:

1.You know about TDI nothing.

2.Bulgarian with friends can find,cause will go to test and check the car with friend specialist,but you don`t have 1 in here to trust and find a good one for you.

3.Taxes for such a car like S6 - you can be badly surprise how much are.

 

Here is the page of offical dealer,check if u can find a proper car for you in here:

 

http://www.audi.bg/gebrauchtwagen/

Редактирано 23 Април 2014 от Reroll

[baba]

mixofia,

how much you looking for S6?

[mixofia]

mixofia,

how much you looking for S6?

 

 The S6 would sell for maybe USD $24.000 in the US - how much in Sofia? 

 

Are cars just crazy expensive there? I just drove a new Q5 3.0 TDI S-line and I liked it very much. But it sells for USD $60.000 NEW and I see this BG 2011 Q5 TDI S-Line for 70.000 - is that EUR or BGN? If it was BGN then that is still USD $50.000 for 3 years old. Am I doing something wrong? 

http://www.cars.bg/c529587

[dhtj]

The price is in BGN. = 35000 EUR

[Reroll]

here you can see how much Q5 cost in Germany for example:

1.

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/audi-q5-3-0-tdi-clean-diesel-quattro-leder-navi-ahk-kassel/190882922.html?lang=en&pageNumber=1&__lp=2&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&makeModelVariant1.makeId=1900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=32&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&minPowerAsArray=185&minPowerAsArray=KW&maxPowerAsArray=222&maxPowerAsArray=KW&fuels=DIESEL&minFirstRegistrationDate=2011-01-01&ambitCountry=DE&transmissions=AUTOMATIC_GEAR&damageUnrepaired=ALSO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&export=ALSO_EXPORT

 

2.

http://suchen.mobile.de/auto-inserat/audi-q5-3-0-tdi-clean-diesel-quattro-s-tronic-dresden/189380589.html?lang=en&pageNumber=1&__lp=1&scopeId=C&sortOption.sortBy=searchNetGrossPrice&makeModelVariant1.makeId=1900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=32&makeModelVariant1.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant2.searchInFreetext=false&makeModelVariant3.searchInFreetext=false&minPowerAsArray=185&minPowerAsArray=KW&maxPowerAsArray=222&maxPowerAsArray=KW&fuels=DIESEL&minFirstRegistrationDate=2011-01-01&maxFirstRegistrationDate=2013-12-31&ambitCountry=DE&transmissions=AUTOMATIC_GEAR&damageUnrepaired=ALSO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&export=ALSO_EXPORT

[dhtj]

And here are the prices for new Q5s in Bulgaria, from audi.bg

I just did some translations.

[nurv]

And used cars from official dealers: http://goo.gl/r3nbSC Look at pages 9 to 12. 

[mixofia]

Thank you! I have to check and confirm, but I think we get the VAT back with a diplomatic passport. Do all the listings include 20% VAT? If so, the net price looks similar to the US. 

[Zaharieff]

Yes, the prices are in BGN and include VAT.

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[mixofia]

Another question - how much do you pay for 98RON petrol? This is in case I decide just to bring the S6

[Reroll]

First in Bulgaria measuring unit for fluids is liter,so prizes cost rough $2 per 1 liter.1 liquid U.S. gallon = round 3,8 liters.

[msi200]

I'd recommend that you sell the cars in the US. Much easier and you will get higher prices.

 

The used car market in Bulgaria is nothing like the USA and most cars are with spun odometers and unknown history. And there are no laws prohibiting that. Also, buying used from an official dealer is not always safe. A foreigner will most probably get screwed, unless he/she has good connections.

Generally, if you want to buy a nice car you either import from Germany(very easy) or buy from a friend.

 

Since you've mentioned a diplomatic visa: I believe there are some heavy discounts for diplomatic car sales in the EU. BMW and Merc do that, not sure about Audi though.

[mixofia]

Is this the info for importing a car from Germany?

http://www.car-exporter.de/html/temporary_plates.html

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[sky]

Yes, that's correct, but the dealer will arrange everything for you.  Why do you want to have a diesel here? If you drive less miles per year you would prefer to have a petrol one.

[msi200]

If you buy from Germany, make sure you buy the red number plates. The yellow ones will get you into trouble in Serbia, Hungary or Romania.

The dealer in Germany will provide you with these plates at a small additional cost. Then you have to drive to Sofia, the fastest way is through Serbia, not Romania. There is a "vignette" system in Austria, Hungary, Romania and Bulgaria. Serbia is with toll posts, and driving in Germany is free of charge:)

[mixofia]

 Why do you want to have a diesel here? If you drive less miles per year you would prefer to have a petrol one.

 

It will be our first time living in Europe. I hope we'll be able to do a lot of road trips throughout the area. Also our first time near a real ski mountain...

 

Besides, I realize I rarely redline my gas engines - too worried about speeding tickets.  And the v10 spoiled me with plenty of low end torque

[BECKO]

The distances in Europe are relatively low compared to USA... you will loose much more from the cars depreciation compared to the fuel economy

Редактирано 25 Април 2014 от BECKO

[mixofia]

That's what I'm trying to figure out - depreciation vs. fuel. I'm still tempted to bring the S6 because I think I'll only lose US $1500-$2000/year in depreciation. But I will probably spend the same amount in extra in fuel costs.

 

But are you saying TDIs depreciate faster than the petrol version? or are you saying buy a 2010 model that has already lost a lot from depreciation? Currently I'm looking at prices for 2010/2011 models - and they didn't bring TDIs to the US back then.

[BECKO]

Brand new cars are depreciated quite fast - the bigger the engine, the bigger the price drop is... mostly because of the fears for expensive repairs and expensive consumables

 

If you are looking at the 3-years old the effect will not be that high... but going down from 5.2 V10 petrol to 3.0 V6 TDI is also a strange move for me